Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/21/2008 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+ SB 201 PUBLIC FINANCE WEBSITE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 122 MUNICIPAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 204 MUNI TAX EXEMPTION: COMBAT DEATHS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 67 MUNICIPAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 204                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   relating  to   an  optional  exemption   from                                                                   
     municipal  property taxes for  residences of  widows and                                                                   
     widowers of  certain members of the armed  forces of the                                                                   
     United States; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GENE  THERRIAULT,  SPONSOR, explained  that  SB  204                                                                   
proposes  optional  property  tax  allowance  for  widows  or                                                                   
widowers of military personel  who were killed in the line of                                                                   
duty.  In deference to the geographic  differences around the                                                                   
state  and  wanting  to  protect   local  control,  the  bill                                                                   
provides an  option rather  than a  mandate for property  tax                                                                   
exemption. He  explained that  the companion legislation,  HB
285, removed the 90 day requirement.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  asked   Senator   Therriault  to   define                                                                   
"permanent  place  of abode".  Senator  Therriault  explained                                                                   
that the  permanent place of abode  is where a  person lives.                                                                   
He added that, with the latitude  in the bill, the definition                                                                   
would  be  created  through  local   ordinances.  He  further                                                                   
explained  that, if a  person owns  multiple properties,  the                                                                   
state  law suggests  that the  exemption be  granted for  the                                                                   
property on which the person lives.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked if any  consideration had been  given to                                                                   
extending  the  exemption  to handicapped  veterans  who  are                                                                   
unable to earn income.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:21:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Therriault  responded that in current  law the senior                                                                   
property tax exemption includes disabled veterans.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  asked if  the municipality  has the  option to                                                                   
provide  the exemption  to  someone who  is  not a  resident.                                                                   
Senator Therriault  responded that SB  204 would allow  for a                                                                   
person to  move to  the State to  qualify for the  exemption.                                                                   
He said  thought had been  given to whether to  differentiate                                                                   
between a  spouse that gave  their life  in the line  of duty                                                                   
based on residency.   He further noted that  he didn't expect                                                                   
people to  move to Alaska to  take advantage of  the property                                                                   
tax  exemption.    He  provided   an  example  of  a  soldier                                                                   
stationed  overseas  who  was  an  Alaska  resident;  he  was                                                                   
stationed overseas, but had property in Alaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:23:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton  asked  if the  provision  mandates  that  the                                                                   
municipality  offer the  exemption to  an individual  who was                                                                   
not  a   resident,  or   could  the  municipality   determine                                                                   
criteria.   Senator  Therriault  clarified  that the  current                                                                   
wording is  a mandate.   He said  that, if  that was  not the                                                                   
desired result, language  would need to be added  to clarify.                                                                   
Senator Elton restated for clarification  that the program is                                                                   
optional, but some of the options  may be precluded.  Senator                                                                   
Therriault  said  the level  and  length were  optional;  the                                                                   
prospective pool is mandated.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins suggested the  90 day language is irrelevant.                                                                   
He  also clarified  that  Alaska  is considered  an  overseas                                                                   
tour-of-duty.  A permanent  place  of abode  means  different                                                                   
things to different  people, particularly those  who work for                                                                   
the  military.  He  supported  the bill,  but  wanted  to  be                                                                   
certain the language was correct.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:26:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas assumed that line  11, 12, and 13 are critical                                                                   
in indicating  that the  ordinance would  allow a  particular                                                                   
entity to  manage some of the  residency issues.  He  said he                                                                   
was  troubled by  the possibility  of someone  moving to  the                                                                   
State  to  take   advantage  of  the  exemption.     He  also                                                                   
questioned   the  eligibility   of  someone  who   remarried.                                                                   
Senator Therriault  said if  a person  remarries they  are no                                                                   
longer a widower  and would not be eligible  for the property                                                                   
tax exemption.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  about those  living in a  commercial                                                                   
building and  how they  are considered  for the exemption  as                                                                   
opposed to those who own a home.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:28:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Therriault   reiterated   that  there   is   enough                                                                   
flexibility in the provision to  allow municipalities to make                                                                   
determinations.  He informed  the Committee  that the  Alaska                                                                   
Municipal League supports SB 204.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  asked   how   many  municipalities   were                                                                   
anticipated to take advantage of the exemption.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ERNEST PRAX,  STAFF, SENATOR GENE  THERRIAULT, said  that 80-                                                                   
100 soldiers stationed  in Alaska have been  killed in combat                                                                   
duty.  There is uncertainty with  regard to how many soldiers                                                                   
had families,  and how many of  those families had  chosen to                                                                   
stay in Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:31:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  referenced the wording  on line 9,  and asked                                                                   
if  the  language  included  a person  who  is  killed  under                                                                   
"friendly fire".   He explained that in a  previous committee                                                                   
there was  a question  regarding a  suicide case and  whether                                                                   
dependents would be the eligible  for the exemption. Mr. Prax                                                                   
said that if a soldier intentionally  took his own life, then                                                                   
the family would  not be eligible for the exemption.  He went                                                                   
on to say  that if a soldier  was killed in the line  of fire                                                                   
while  protecting another  soldier,  they would  not only  be                                                                   
eligible,  but  would be  bumped  up  the priority  list  for                                                                   
receipt  of benefits.    With regard  to  being killed  under                                                                   
"friendly fire" the answer is yes, they would be eligible.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins asked the Sponsor  if it was his intention to                                                                   
make a widower who had remarried ineligible.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Therriault responded yes.   He further clarified that                                                                   
the eligibility  for the exemption  is based on  "hostile" or                                                                   
"friendly" fire.  Any individual  receiving "imminent danger"                                                                   
pay is eligible for the exemption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:33:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if the definition includes  a soldier                                                                   
who  is  preparing  to  go to  Iraq  and  dies  before  being                                                                   
deployed.  Senator  Therriault said that the  soldier in that                                                                   
scenario  would not  be eligible  as  they would  not yet  be                                                                   
receiving "imminent danger" pay.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:35:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  clarified that  an individual is  considered                                                                   
eligible  for imminent  danger pay  when in  the combat  zone                                                                   
circle, regardless of what capacity they serve.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:36:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  HERNANDEZ, FAIRBANKS  (Testified via  teleconference),                                                                   
testified in  support of SB 204.   Her husband was  killed in                                                                   
Iraq  in 2006.  She reiterated  the  definition of  "imminent                                                                   
danger pay".  She further commented  that she did not feel it                                                                   
appropriate for a soldier to receive  benefits if their death                                                                   
was at their own hand.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Van Sant provided definitions:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   -permanent place of abode: 185 days a year                                                                                   
   -Widow: benefits stop if remarry, municipalities could                                                                       
   extend                                                                                                                       
   -"90 days" was taken out of house bill due to assessors                                                                      
   seeing it as problematic.  He suggested the 90 day                                                                           
   language be removed from SB 204.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Therriault  said he  did  not  have a  problem  with                                                                   
omitting the  90 day provision  and noted he would  work with                                                                   
staff to draft a CS.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SB  204  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in  Committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:42:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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